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Raymond Arroyo, commenting on the odd choices for some of the music in the liturgy at Nationals Stadium, after listening to an absolutely awful conga version of an offertory hymn (including bongos and a some sort of steel kettle drum) just said that "the music in this liturgy, is out of character for papal masses of late. The music has a sort of amazon flavor to it!"

Funny and sad.

Update: That mass, musically speaking, was one of the oddest things I have ever seen. It was so multicultural that it ceased to have any culture whatsoever! There were so many different bad songs in different languages it served merely as a testament to how multi-culturally banal we are. Father Neuhaus, commenting on EWTN, went so far as to call it mere chatter. That is a very polite way of putting it. All this banal and incomprehensible chatter reminded of a passage in Genesis.

"Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another's speech."

Apparently, we didn't need God to intervene this time, we did it to ourselves.

Beside the conga, the Amen sounded like to beginning of the chariot sequence from Ben-hur. Perhaps this was a tribute to Charlton Heston? Whatever it was, it was certainly bizarre.

One cannot help but wonder what the Holy Father must think of it. If we are lucky, perhaps this multicultural conflagration will put an end to the stadium masses once and for all.

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Matilda said...

Did you hear Fr. N. refer to the "chatter" of the music? Cracked me up!

Mary said...
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Mary (again) said...

... but the Holy Father's homily was wonderful!

Jeff Miller said...

At the Easter Vigil I went to a parish with a five minue alleluia with kettle drum.

The alleluia itself was hard to describe unless you imagine Tarzan doing it.

Patrick Archbold said...

Fr. Neuhaus was was deliciously biting in his commentary on the music. Other than the Pope's homily, that was the highlight.

As for kettle drums at mass. You wouldn't think that you would need to tell people that it is inappropriate. If you are lounging on a beach drinking dos equis, fine. Papal liturgies, not so much.

David L Alexander said...

"If you are lounging on a beach drinking dos equis, fine."

What if you were to sneak Dos Equis into the stadium, would that help?

Renee said...

This is what happens when you care only for the message you are trying to send (Look at us! We're so cool and multicultural!) and next to nothing about the occasion itself. What an embarrassment.

Horatius said...

I thought it was great: I was able to excape the confines of my evil western culture and heritage and be transported to a tribe somewhere deep interior of the dark continent. Thank God that we are moving beyond such passe concepts as good taste and reverence. Long Live Fluffiness!

Patrick Archbold said...

The fact that you made your comment in English, the vestiges of an evil colonial empire, shows that you still have much multicultural progress to make.

Pole pole ndio mwendo.
(slow and steady wins the race in Swahili) Now that is multicultural!

Horatius said...

Apesadumbrado, eso tiene demasiado significado y verdad a ser multicultural. Las culturas son como los sombreros, tú no consideran, diversión para intentar encendido los diversos, pero esencialmente igual.

抱歉,那有许多意思和真相多文化。 文化是象帽子,你没看见,乐趣试穿不同那些的,但是本质上同样。

Droevig, heeft dat multicultureel teveel betekenis en waarheid te zijn. De culturen zijn als hoeden, u zien niet, pret op verschillende degenen te proberen, maar hoofdzakelijk het zelfde.

Désolé, cela a trop de signification et vérité à être multiculturelle. Les cultures sont comme des chapeaux, vous ne voient pas, amusement pour essayer les différents, mais essentiellement le même.

Traurig, hat das zu viel Bedeutung und Wahrheit, zum multikulturell zu sein. Kulturen sind wie Hüte, nicht du sehen, der Spaß, zum die verschiedene an zu versuchen, aber im Wesentlichen die selben.

Spiacente, quello ha troppi significato e verità da essere multi-cultural. Le colture sono come i cappelli, voi non vedono, divertimento per provare sopra quei differenti, ma essenzialmente gli stessi.

残念、それはたくさんの意味および真実を多文化である有する。 文化は帽子のよう、見ない、異なった物を試みる楽しみ本質的に同じである。

유감스러운, 그것에는 너무 많은 의미 및 진실이 다문화 일 것이다 있다. 문화는 모자 같이, 당신 보지 않는다, 다른 그들을 위에 시도하는 재미, 그러나 근본적으로 동일 이다.

Pesaroso, isso tem demasiados significado e verdade a ser multicultural. As culturas são como chapéus, você não consideram, divertimento para tentar sobre o diferentes, mas essencialmente o mesmo.

Огорченно, то имеет слишком много смысль и правду, котор нужно быть multi-cultural. Культуры как шлемы, вы не видят, потеха для того чтобы попытаться дальше по-разному одни, но необходимо эти же.

Sorry, that has too much meaning and truth to be multi-cultural. Cultures are like hats, don't you see, fun to try on different ones, but essentially the same.

David L Alexander said...

"Pole pole ndio mwendo."

Then there's Tagalog, one of the languages used at the general intercessions: "Ang mabagal at matatag ang panalo sa laban."

Yeah, that's the ticket.

The Bovina Bloviator said...

As for kettle drums at mass. You wouldn't think that you would need to tell people that it is inappropriate.

I'm glad no one told Joseph Haydn that when he composed the Paukenmesse.

David L Alexander said...

It wasn't just Papa Haydn. We had a setting by Dvorak for our Mass on Easter Sunday, and we had kettle drums in our orchestra for that. It was awesome!

The Bovina Bloviator said...

Quite right, David; also the Requiem masses of Mozart, Berlioz and Verdi, to name a few more.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone stop to think for a moment that all those different languages were used because those languages are spoken in the Archdiocese of Washington (and Masses are regularly said in those languages).

I was at the Mass and from what I was told, the crowds were not shown very much, if at all.

There many many contingents of Filipinos, Koreans, Vietnamese in the crowd. There was also a huge Hispanic presence at the Mass.

I disagree with the concept of multiculturalism, but I don't think it is outrageous for one petition to be spoken in the various languages of those people actually in attendance.

Anonymous said...

How arrogant and self serving were those who made the preparations for this mass. It went directly against what Pope Benedict has been teaching regarding the celebration of the Eucharist.

It was a slap in the face to our Holy Father the Pope.

We are all Americans who speak English not hyphenated Americans.

Patrick Archbold said...

Quite right. I should have been more specific. Steel kettle drums or whatever they are properly called. I am not sure Haydn used those as well!

Well, maybe when he was on vacation in Jamaica!

Daniel said...

The Holy Father looks utterly petrified half of Mass! "When will this end?" I don't think I am imagining this look on his face, folks!

Jim said...

I thought I saw BXVI roll his eyes a couple times during the Mass at Nationals Stadium. I know I did more than twice.

The Bovina Bloviator said...

Patrick, they are known simply as steel drums because they were first fashioned from 55-gallon oil drums left behind in Trinidad by departing allied troops at the end of World War II. "Drum" actually refers to the barrel from which the instrument is made, the part whacked with hammers is called the "pan" (but let's not get pedantic). They have a lovely sound and if the music is appropriate and directs our attention to God, there's no reason they can't be used in a Mass.

The problem isn't the instruments; it's the crap that's played on them.

Anonymous said...

"How arrogant and self serving were those who made the preparations for this mass. It went directly against what Pope Benedict has been teaching regarding the celebration of the Eucharist."

This and other comments seem to be indicating that the Holy Father is some brain-dead figurehead. He's the Pope, the supreme head of the Church, not to mention an incredibly intelligent man and world-renown scholar. If he didn't want these things at his masses, he could have stopped it before it even got started. Months ago, when preparations were being made, he could have said, "No stadium masses, no pop music, no pro-abortionist receiving communion, etc."

Since he didn't do any of this, I can only assume that he agreed with all of it.

It's a shame, because he could really have made an important statement and really have put all those wayward bishops in their place.

Since he didn'

MommaLlama said...

My husband and I laughed so hard we cried listening to Fr. Neuhaus... one of our favorite statements went something like "those who organized this must not have read any of the Pope's writings on the Mass, liturgy and sacred music."

And several times I swear I heard Raymond snicker when Fr. N would comment.

The comments during and after made it worth the watching!

David L Alexander said...

"Since he didn't do any of this, I can only assume that he agreed with all of it."

That's because you also assume anyone in charge can just wave a magic wand, and the magic just happens....

As he was leaving office, President Harry Truman was heard to have said this regarding his successor: "Poor Ike. He'll get in this office, and think he's still in the Army; telling everyone, do this, do that, and wondering why it doesn't get done."

It is a fact of human nature and human organization, where someone at the top must eventually delegate certain tasks to those beneath him. The Holy Father is no exception. He has made his wishes more than clear. He must also count on those who are accustomed to taking the passive-aggressive approach, knowing that he will not stand up and call a halt to it the moment he sees something not to his liking.

That being said, adherents to Catholic tradition can take solace in knowing, that Pope Benedcit has a much better idea now, of what the faithful must endure on any given Sunday.

And THAT is a much safer assumption.

Sojourner said...

I didn't find the music offensive at all. I did find Arroyo suitably annoying as always.

The multicultural critique we all have here reflects a desire for a much more restricted medieval Roman antiphony. I don't have a problem with that, and I expect much of the Church is heading in that direction more long term.

I think when we get there, we will truly be a remnant--faithful--but a remnant.

David L Alexander said...

"The multicultural critique we all have here reflects a desire for..."

...the mind of the Church with respect to the role of sacred music in the liturgy. She DOES have an opinion, you know? Someone even put it in writing. (Yeah, who knew?) Such a conviction leaves little room for music as entertainment for the crowd, as opposed to turning the crowd toward the worship of God. I didn't find most of the music annoying either. I simply didn't find it appropriately used.

What we witnessed was the Holy Father's introduction to the status quo in the USA. I'm just glad Placido Domingo showed up. His Holiness appeared relieved.

Anonymous said...

Pope St. Pius X weighs in in his motu proprio "Inter Sollicitudines": "Among the cares of the pastoral office, not only of this Supreme Chair, which We, though unworthy, occupy through the inscrutable dispositions of Providence, but of every local church, a leading one is without question that of maintaining and promoting the decorum of the House of God in which the august mysteries of religion are celebrated, and where the Christian people assemble to receive the grace of the Sacraments, to assist at the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar, to adore the most august Sacrament of the Lord’s Body and to unite in the common prayer of the Church in the public and solemn liturgical offices. Nothing should have place, therefore, in the temple calculated to disturb or even merely to diminish the piety and devotion of the faithful, nothing that may give reasonable cause for disgust or scandal, nothing, above all, which directly offends the decorum and sanctity of the sacred functions and is thus unworthy of the House of Prayer and of the Majesty of God."
I am confident that Pope Benedict is of the same mind on this matter - but there is so much work to do and so little time. Long Live Pope Benedict. Kit

Anonymous said...

P.S. I didn't mean to imply that Pope Benedict doesn't have much time. He may live to 100. I fervently hope that he does, may it please God. However, even twenty years or more may not be enough to clean up the mess that liturgical music has become. Long Live Pope Benedict. Kit

magdalene said...

I am tired of multicultural 'celebrations' of our diversity at what should be the Holy Sarifice of the Mass with the emphasis NOT on us but on the worship of God. And that is what was lost in that debacle in DC.

That is also what I experience in our local parishes--whether it be the bilingual Mass we all hate or the round church singing of how great 'we' art.

Instead of 'celebrating' our diversity, why don't we concentrat on the worship of God in our common and official language where we can come together as one--yes, I mean Latin. Time to learn or relearn it. Time to be on the same page. Time to embrace our liturgical heritage.

Leticia said...

I was busy preparing to go to Dunwoodie, and missed the TV broadcast of the Nationals Mass. These comments tell me I was fortunate.
Instead, I watched the Mass at Yankee Stadium twice.
What heavenly music; Beethoven, Panis Angelicus, and so much Latin!
THAT was a Mass worthy of the Holy Father and Our Lord.
Fr. Neuhaus gave it his highest praise, he said it was the best possible Mass outside of the sanctuary of a Church. I agree.

Kudos for the Archdiocese of New York!

music said...

What do you mean?

Anonymous said...

I find that the limits we Christians put on God and His Omnipresent Goodness are apalling. See Psalm 150, and think on these things! If we only offer The Mass, and the Holy Father when he blesses us with his presence, Western European Music, what then are we saying about our beautiful eclectic musical heritage? As to the quality of the musical offering, perhaps we should address the Music Director for the occasion. -Bj.

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