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Gay Marriage Passes in NY

What a bunch of fools. They cheer the downfall of a once great civilization.

The Politico reports:

Striking what advocates believe is a historic victory for gay rights, the New York state senate Friday approved same-sex marriage, New York a promised governor’s signature away from being the sixth and largest state to allow gays and lesbians to marry.

The 33-29 vote is an enormous victory for first-year Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat who pledged during last fall’s campaign to push for gay marriage. It comes after an intense public and private lobbying campaign from a wide cast of politicians, celebrities and athletes, including New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and former President Bill Clinton.
Marriage became legally meaningless in New York today.

And every child in public schools in New York will learn that marriage is between a man and a man or a woman and a woman or maybe a man and a woman.

Update: Wasn't this accomplished the moment most people accepted the unitive functions of sexuality without the procreative aspect.

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67 comments:

Anonymous said...

Lord have mercy on us.

Giovanni A. Cattaneo said...

The Bishops have made their bed now they have to lay on it. Sorry but how did nobody see this coming?

Anonymous said...

Sin prevails again. So sad!

PattyinCT said...

This isn't about marriage. This is about pinning a Star of David to any citizen's chest who speaks out for traditional marriage. Proof? How many gay couples marry in MA? In CT? The tiniest of a percent. This isn't about marriage. It's about impinging on the religious beliefs and sentiments on anyone who upholds God's law.

The land of the free...And when that becomes the free to do whatever the Hell you want. Watch out world, we've just unraveled a little more...

Irenaeus of New York said...

PattyinCT,

Well said!

politicaljunkiemom said...

We're not in Kansas anymore...

NY doesn't have a residency requirement, so I wonder how many of the sham-marriages performed will be out of staters.

And PattyinCT, you're absolutely right: the last Census showed one-half of one percent of cohabitating couples were same-sex. Not even a full percent. We're being bamboozled by a very vociferous group.

Anonymous said...

Score another one for Satan.

Anonymous said...

Never expected much out of the younger Cuomo considering the words and actions of his apostate father.

LarryD said...

Matthew - I think that Anon's comment at 11:34 PM should be deleted.

Christopher said...

"The Bishops have made their bed now they have to lay on it"

Pardon, but Archbishop Dolan of New York was a witness to the end.

lisag said...

The push for gay and women ministers led the way to gay marriage. How can you allow one and not the other. Protestants caved to a misguided sense of fairness and now it will rule the school ground and society in general. How long will the Catholic church hold out. Will all Catholic parents retreat from public schools and if not what do they do if their child tells them they are homophobic. What about Catholic businesses. Will they go for the money or will they turn down gay weddings and be persecuted. What will the bishops do how long will it take for the government come down on the Church for it's beliefs.

Peterk said...

It will be interesting to see how many people apply for marriage certs now with the passage of this law. it will be interesting also to see how many divorces come about in later years since NY state doesn't have a no fault divorce law

Jenny said...

@Peterk, last year, NY became the 50th state to enact no-fault divorce laws.

That said, the passage of this law is a terrible, terrible thing. I worry not only for the Church itself, but also for individuals such as myself, who want NO PART of these homosexual "marriages."

Since there is no provision in the new law protecting the rights of individuals, anyone who refuses to acknowledge one of these "marriages" by not participating in them (such as baking a cake for them, if you are a baker), is now subject to lawsuits by the uh..."couple."

And the poor kids in public school! Can you imagine the messages they'll get THERE? Ugh.

This really is sickening.

Regards,

Sawyer said...

Now Cuomo's bishop must -- MUST -- make a public pronouncement that signing the fraud of same-sex marriage into law will be a public declaration that he (Cuomo) does not hold to Catholic faith is is no longer fit to receive Holy Communion. Then priests should be instructed to withhold Communion from the governor.

It's going to get even more difficult for Catholics and sane moral thinkers in the United States.

WingletDriver said...

Bill Clinton famously signed the Defense of Marriage Act prohibiting the federal government from recognizing same sex marriage. Now he's lobbying for it. Anyone who believes in "moderate" democrats is an idiot. Clinton was an opportunist and an incrementalist--willing to slowly erode the country.

Anonymous said...

Boy the slope in NY is getting more slippery by the day. What happens when a young man wants to marry 'a gal like the one who married dear old dad' but can't find one - so he decides to marry mom? Well he can just marry mom or his sister or his cat.
New York has gone 'dark'.

Anonymous said...

@lisag 12:52 If my child returned home from school and called me a homophobe, I would tell her that: "Yes, I am afraid that if I believed in same sex marriage, you would not be here and I could not love you." Same sex marriage is for devils in human form. As for me and mine, I will serve God.

Mary De Voe

Macmooski said...

I'm ashamed of my state legislators....wonder how many call themselves Catholic.

stilbelieve said...

This is just more proof that the Bishops, i.e., USCCB, should disband their Washington D.C. staff of 350 people working on all kinds of "prudential judgment" issues to lobby Congress, and use that money back in their dioceses focusing on just three issues: life, i.e., creation; marriage; and caring for the poor - not "caring" emotionally, but by “serving” the poor. The first two were established by God. Man has conquered the first (legal abortion), and is now going after the second (homosexual "marriage"). If man succeeds in the second, that's the end of civilization as we know it. The third issue is “serving” the poor. That was established by Jesus.


If the bishops teach their flocks on just those three issues we will have a chance of preserving and improving on the Western civilization that was handed down to us by Christianity. If not, the future belongs to the Islam radicals who will wipe out abortion and homosexual “marriage.”

Anonymous said...

Gee. The Church once prohibited marriage between a Jew and a Catholic (4th Lateran Council.) Bigots never learn. The horrible bigotry of the Church is so deeply ingrained that many Catholics can not learn how evil their beliefs are. Glad to see you lost this round.

Anonymous said...

Agree with PattyinCT.

With respect to Cuomo's bishop, the orchestration of this as well as respect for prochoice has been a long, long time in coming. This was promoted by priests and diocesan "leaders" in various ways decades ago. What do people think the point of a politicized dissident diocese really is? It is to keep people under the thumb of governments and to restrict their ability to pray and worship as their conscience and the Church see fit. The senior Cuomo, with ND, McBrien and this same bishop, was all about why Catholics should be really into more abortion for everyone. Now that's a total mess for Catholics and especially for the women who have them and their slaughtered children. The bishop merely keeps moving on to the next political target on the agenda and supported Cuomo's son who as a Catholic campaigned on this issue and promised it. Like this bishop, political promises are paramount and all else must be neglected or actively destroyed if it does not support the agenda. It has nothing to do anymore with faith or the Church. It is raw brute power for Democrats and nothing else. It is not that they really care one way or another about these causes, or have anything to say about leadership or theology or how to go about living our lives with one another. It is only about one party and one party only and it doesn't matter what that party wants. This bishop has always supported this agenda and certainly will not speak out now as he really never supports prolife either, contrary to whatever wiki says about him. Aside from the political agenda chasing and promotion, the most average kinds of Catholic teachings and practices have been aggressively destroyed, marked out for death. That is reality.

I see the Bishop of Brooklyn diocese is organizing a protest there, no parish or Catholic school or institution there may welcome or invite a legislator or politician who supported this. Obviously any Catholic who voted for this voted in favor of widespread and organized persecution of Catholics in the next generation. But if they think that Catholicism will just die off as a result then they had better think again. They will be surprised and thriving Catholicism will always be unapologetically prolife and supportive of families and the poorest, and be fortified by the Eucharist despite engineered efforts to eliminate. If they think that there will be no one to answer to by their assuring, as Catholics, that future generations of Catholics will be demonized as bigots over an issue that affects relatively few, they are seriously in error. Apparently they have no sympathy for the very people they are there and authorized to shepherd and they only see people in terms of what they may deliver for a select few to whom their allegiance is determined, in selfish and narcissistic way. They are pastoral for what they want but when it comes to the needs of women and children, they hate.

Anonymous said...

Classic Republican Politics - give the pro-family jargon when running for elections; vote for anti-family legislation once in office; don't budge on the sacred things like: tax increases on the wealthy----because at the end of the day, the only thing sacred to Republicans is tax cuts for the wealthiest of the wealthy. Thy only use the unborn as in their rhetoric ocassionally to keep middle income pro-lifers voting for them - that's it.

Anonymous said...

And by the way, the USCCB don't even believe what they "teach" anymore. If they do, where's their zeal?! The secularists are doing a much better job at persuading the public than our bishops.

Anonymous said...

Yeah how come there are no prolife Democrats or the ones who profess are stifled?

I'd love to expand the safety net so that abortion could be "rare" but some Catholic prelates won't even dare to go there because others call the shots. And the educational system is a mess, why is that intractable even for Democrats who supposedly are all about families? What a joke.

I don't think the innocent lives slaughtered consider themselves "jargon" or "rhetoric" but instead are very much alive and real, material.

Obviously some Catholics do quite a lot to support the poorest but you won't hear that when they have become shills for politicians first and Christianity to the extent it suits their agendas. Don't take my word for it. Seek after it and do not let supposed leaders chew your food for you.

Anonymous said...

Lots of photos and statements of people crying. I think that sums it up, under the cover of darkness, people cried.

The "parade" will celebrate it more befittingly I guess this weekend where people where pornographic clothes and dress as mock nuns and simulate sexual acts supposedly in order to serve the cause of dignity.

Don't forget though that the children who may grow up to be gay are also slaughtered in the womb. Let's see if Cuomo and the others care a whit about them and the families they rightly deserve to be born into.

Anonymous said...

When the mandated curriculum is passed down to the schools for required lecturing and shaming, will it go like this, "Gay marriage is legal and some people are also allowed to believe that marriage is best between one man and one woman for legitimate reasons" Or do you think it will be just the first statement with the "all others are (fill in the blank)." Apparently in MA a parent who said he wanted to impart sex ed personally to his early elementary aged child was totally demonized and probably has a legal claim for being slandered. Not everyone wants Lady GaGa to teach their children about sexual health. Is that so difficult to comprehend? If it is all about the sexual health why are 10 year olds being forced to be inoculated against future stds? Oh the joys of inheriting the messes of the boomer generation, the hits just keep on coming.

Anonymous said...

Hey anonymous @ 8:57 a.m.; you homosexual deviants and your "supporters" are the worst, most noxious bigots in America.

Anonymous said...

Know of a great couple, one is Jewish and the other Catholic and they are leaders. The Catholic is one of the strongest representatives for life in our time and has achieved all kinds of stature and recognition for work, both secular and in the Church. So much for 8:57 revisionist b.s. Of course if you want to know something about the history of the Church don't listen Olbermann. If you take the anti-Catholic historical tutelage you will fail the standardized tests. Those who hate the Church will not tell the truth and you can't trust a message which leads with hate.

Anonymous said...

this is great news for America, for freedom, and equal rights. I predict that other states will soon follow suit. I look forward to a more open, tolerant society, and toward a priesthood that includes women. The central message of the Gospels is Jesus' efforts at social justice--today he would be hanging out with the gays, atheists, prostitutes, criminals, etc., if he were alive, not with the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, which preaches intolerance and discrimination.

But of course I know, sadly, that this comment will be deleted. It's not like you can have dissent of opinion on this blog or anything.

Anonymous said...

Dissent of opinion? Yes you can have it, here and everywhere I guess but it looks like the days of celebrating dissent are drawing to a close.

You seem to be laboring many dumb ideas about the Church that Church haters have preached, for centuries. I think it's time you look into what the Church really is about and not blindly accept the propaganda.

The "central message" of the Gospel is to believe in the good news. Social justice is not mentioned in the Gospel but if you are referring to the dignity and sanctity of all human life wherever situated then we have work that needs to be done. Yes, Jesus would be hanging out with all of us, as we await birth in our mother's wombs. Don't let anyone tell you that the choice is cool with Jesus.

Dave P. said...

today (Jesus) would be hanging out with the gays, atheists, prostitutes, criminals, etc.

...and leading them to repentance and conversion.

Anonymous said...

I think it is very sinful, and of course lacking in charity, and quite closed minded as well, to keep saying over and over that other believers are intolerant or bigoted. Not only is it nonsense and deception but it is also hateful and divisive.

Sawyer said...

But if people ARE intolerant and bigoted, then it is an act of charity to speak the truth about it and name it for what it is. Failing to identify intolerance and bigotry are the true nonsense and deception. It is never hateful to speak the truth in charity. Speaking the truth might be divisive, but only indirectly and only because people who refuse to accept the truth will divide themselves away from those who adhere to and proclaim the truth. The truth is not divisive; sin, which refuses to accept the truth, is what is divisive.

And the gay-propaganda machine is one of the most divisive forces in America right now, precisely because it is an ideology founded upon falsehood, intolerance and sin. The defenders of natural and true marriage are not bigoted, intolerant or divisive in the least. The defenders of natural and true marriage have the truth on their side, and they will be vindicated eventually when the evil consequences of the sin of flouting the natural moral law is played out in our society over generations.

I will say bluntly: anyone who supports this perversion of marriage to allow same-sex couples the right to be considered married is a fool. I am astonished that so many fellow citizens can be so deeply misled when the truth is plain as day that male and female are the intended pairing whereas same-sex pairings make absolutely no biological nor psychological nor spiritual sense whatsoever.

God save America from her foolishness, pride and sin.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 8:57
You presume to know WHY the Catholic Church did not recognize marriage between a Jew and a Catholic. You call it bigotry. The validity of a sacrament for persons who do not believe in the sacrament may be called into question. The couple is free to marry legally. Please do not try to impose your agenda on our sacraments, our dogmas and our beliefs. If you choose to go to hell, there is very little I can do to prevent or correct you, but the Sacrament of Matrimony is a Catholic Sacrament. Go make up your own or where ever.

Mary De Voe

bob said...

They didn't want Jews marrying Catholics because they believed Jews were Christ killers. Read the history of Edgardo Mortara to see how the Church viewed Jews. Bigotry in the Church is hardly new.

bob said...

Sawyer's post, dripping with hatred for people who merely want what he already has. THAT is the DEFINITION of bigotry. You bigots have your beliefs; keep them to yourselves. Society can no longer stomach your mental illnesses and your perversions

Dave P. said...

Bob-Troll:

It seems that you define "hatred" as "disagreement with my worldview".

Macmooski said...

You're right, Dave P.....compassion, and an invitation to repent and serve God.

Anonymous said...

Sure, Bob, I'll read about that right after I read Modern Day Catholic Hating by Our Friend Bob Commenter. A summer must read. I will get right on it and will check back with you. So I guess your ethics is that bigotry is not bigotry when you are imposing it? I don't think I will be following your strange example as to ethics and morals in my life.

Paul H said...

Quote: It seems that you define "hatred" as "disagreement with my worldview".

This seems to be how the majority of socially liberal commenters on the internet define "hatred" or "hate." I guess that "marriage" isn't the only word they are trying to redefine.

bob said...

Dave P uh, no. I define hatred as sayingb those who disagree with you dont have the right to marry. Know anybody who believes that? DUH!!

Anonymous said...

The central message of the Gospels is Jesus' efforts at social justice--today he would be hanging out with the gays, atheists, prostitutes, criminals, etc., if he were alive, not with the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, which preaches intolerance and discrimination.

Yeah, and you know what He'd be saying? "Go and sin no more" not "You're okay, I'm okay."

Anonymous said...

I define hatred as sayingb those who disagree with you dont have the right to marry.

No, it's not. This is the kind of intellectually vapid BS the left spouts. Together, you and the rest of the liberal applauding this have about 10 brain cells to share between you.

Marriage is not a right. Freedom of religion is.

And we'll win. We'll fight back and some day repeal gay "marriage" laws so that the truth of human dignity and sexuality can reign free.

Enjoy this temporary victory while it lasts.

bob said...

Anonymous and his Orwellian view that denying gays the right to marry isn't bigotry staggers the imagination. If Catholics were treated like gays, would you claim that was bigotry? Obviously being Catholic impairs your ability to think

Anonymous said...

Actually, Bob, Catholics are a protected class under this legislation so yes, Catholics may affirm the sacramentality of marriage and under the law you are no longer entitled to attack people on basis of religious affiliation or belief. You are free to do what you wish but you may not orchestrate hate speech against any group free to worship as they see fit in a pluralistic society. That's the deal Bob.

bob said...

Anonymous comes through with the traditional 'nyah nyah' argument that bigotry isn't bigotry if it's done for religious reasons. Tell it to the Taliban.

bob said...

Anonymous says I'm not free to use hate speech. Uh, no. While I haven't USED hate speech, this is America. Hate speech is protected.

Tough for you guys

Dave P. said...

I define hatred as saying those who disagree with you dont have the right to marry

No one has the right to marry. I am actually in favor of leaving marriage entirely to the religious/personal realm and allowing individuals to enter a "partnership of mutual convenience" with any other chosen individual - spouse, significant other, sibling, best friend, eldest child, parent - whoever. In fact, this arrangement has been proposed instead of civil unions, and has been rejected, since that would thwart the purpose of civil unions and gay marriage.

Paul H said...

I should have added that many socially liberal folks who comment on blogs also tend to define (or really re-define) hate as "disapproving of my behavior or actions."

Many of these folks seem to have trouble telling the difference between "I dislike you or hate you" (which very few conservatives are saying) and "I dislike or disapprove of some of your behaviors or actions" (which many conservatives are saying).

Silver S. Parnell said...

The institution of marriage is thousands of years old. The reasons for its creation had nothing to do with declaring one's love for another person. Love does not need the recognition or approval or blessing of society. A man and a woman, and the children they bring into the world through the grace of God are the building blocks of a healthy, strong society. When I was a young woman, I was thrown into a society where almost 'anything goes' and where disrespect for this institution was inculcated by the media and my peers. It took me years of discernment and education to undo the damage that philosphy wreaked on my soul. Thank God for religious education and the Holy Spirit! I see clearly now that giving "marriage rights" to homosexuals has nothing to do with "equal rights." Give "marriage rights" to the sterile joining of same sex couples trivializes the grandeur and beauty of a sacred institution. Children will now grow up with a distorted view of relationships. I pray for them all.

Siobhan said...

The census was being discussed on NPR this week. For the first time in American history, the majority of persons under the age of 3 are from minority groups. America's embrace of contraception, abortion, and now gay marriage is cultural suicide. How can people not see this?

Anonymous said...

It's clear that "bob's" deviant sexuality, or support thereof, IS his religion. Remember, bobby, "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." Good luck, pal.

Margaret said...

We need a clear, simple "resistance" symbol that people who support traditional marriage can display-- pins, bumper stickers, etc... Any ideas?

Margaret said...

Can we do the interlocking male-female symbol, but make the interlocking circle part look like wedding rings?

Adrienne said...

What can we do? Pray rosaries EVERY DAY for the Consecration of Russia, who has spread her errors of atheism and all that results from it, offer our Holy Communions, and fast to counter the work of Satan and save souls as Our lady of Fatima commanded. Be holy and make reparation for ourselves and others who are bringing about this evil - THAT we CAN DO and Satan HATES it.

Amy said...

Anonymous comes through with the traditional 'nyah nyah' argument that bigotry isn't bigotry if it's done for religious reasons. Tell it to the Taliban.

No, it's not. If "hate speech" is protected, religious belief is protected. The First Amendment doesn't apply to you solely because you're PC.

It's not bigotry, it's truth. Gay marriage isn't about equality or love, it's about sticking it to traditional religion and people of faith.

And every time you post, you prove that point more and more and more.

MF said...

Another monstrously sad day for America. Another long slide down the slope to hell. Get down on your knees and beg for mercy. God will not be mocked forever.

o.h. said...

Catholics are still prohibited from marrying Jews--or, more accurately (and less inflammatorily), non-baptized persons--under canon law. This prohibition can be dispensed by the local ordinary; however the marriage, while valid, is not sacramental if one party is not baptized. So bob is technically correct, but not in a way that supports his charge of bigotry.

BTW the dispensation in question (for "disparity of cult") is not difficult to obtain (I say, speaking from personal experience).

-o.h.

Connecticut Catholic Corner said...

Father forgive them, for they know not what they have done...

They are fools, every single one of them.

Anonymous said...

I have one word for New York residents.
VOTE THEM OUT

Christopher Patrick said...

The basic groundwork for "gay marriage" was twofold: 1) societal acceptance of "no fault divorce" and 2) societal acceptance of contraception, through artificial or natural means. "No fault divorce" eviscerated the permanence of marriage. Contraception made the procreative function of sex subordinate to the unitive. Marriage has become primarily a sexual union that is neither permanent nor procreative, making "gay marriage" a "thinkable thought."

The "public Church" says almost nothing about cohabitation or concubinage, and continues to speak of marriage in a way that is inconsistent with its own "pastoral" practices: when do we ever hear, from a pulpit, about the sins of divorce, cohabitation, or contraception? "Gay marriage" is opposed as a contradiction of teachings that aren't even defended in the pulpit

Those charged with preaching and defending the teachings of the Church should do so without being silent about both natural and eternal consequences. Why should anyone take Archbishop Dolan seriously when he is, for the most part, "all talk and no walk"? Does ANYONE suffer any visible consequences for public sin? Does Archbishop Dolan ever say, when defending traditional marriage, that homosexuality itself is sinful and, therefore, all by itself incapable of becoming a bond of "marriage"? It's good to bluster about "you can't redefine nature," but why consistently ignore that, at its root, "gay marriage" is the institutionalization of sin? Lost in all the rhetoric about respect and dignity is the underlying reality that homosexual activity is always sinful.

Preach and teach the Truth consistently and, maybe, the Church can regain its moral authority in the public square.

rosemarie said...

Is there any way that the people of New York State can recall their governor? If not, then this is a lesson of the voting booth. If you blindly vote for a person because of a political party or because he's promising you a "free lunch" then you got your reward.

Otherwise, you'll have to remember this sixteen months later so you vote the responsible party out! This vote is a vote of "misplaced compassion", and you will suffer for it.

Remember, pray for the sinners (as we all are) and do your best by legislation to out these "Judases" and "Pilates" .

Remember, God will be the final judge and they will get their just punishments in the end.

Carol Raphael BROSNANcbrosnan6030@cox.net said...

Mr. Cuomo boasts of his phyyric victory in passing legislation on gay marriage(without approval of the electorate). He fails to recognize that our enemies are rejoicing over another step taken toward the dissolution of our society. The family is the bedrock of stability in our country. History teaches us that whenever a country is de-stabilized it collapses.Sparta comes to mind. They did not procreate. Therefore, they deprived the country of children who would have formed the nucleus for future generations.

Penny said...

I live in NY. I did not vote for Cuomo. I voted for the Italian guy that the media labeled the homophobic bigot. I wonder how many of the Catholics that I see in Church on Sunday voted for Cuomo? I bet a lot of them did. I know of many people who go to church and then say, "well I'm a Catholic but I don't agree with the Church on ....whatever". These are the people, along with Cuomo and the legislature, who betrayed us.

Anonymous said...

You see how human beings, created in the image and likeness of God, have degraded themselves. This will never happen in the animal kingdom. Was God unfair to Sodom and Gomorah?

Anonymous said...

Religion is man's response to God's gift of Faith. Freedom of Religion would preclude atheism. The wedding between God and man cannot be altered by definition. God loves us perfectly. When two become one, a family is created and blessed (graced) by God. The other stuff has no meaning, no purpose, no reality as two men cannot become one. Two women cannot become one. The human soul cannot become a soul for the devil, because the devil has no body and is a pure evil spirit without a soul. Jesus descended into hell to make sure the devils knew their place in creation, and the devils' place in creation is pure annihilation, eternal damnation. And the devils chose hell over admitting that God is the Sovereign of all. WHO is like unto God. Truth is like unto God. Two become one in the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. Everything else is perjury in a court of law. There is no such thing as a vocation to gay marriage. If one wants to continue as an honest human being, one must admit that there is no such thing as a vocation to gay marriage. Proponents of gay marriage reproduce by kidnapping the souls of our innocent virgins.

Mary De Voe

Anonymous said...

Straight Pride....this is the new gay-haters slogan. It goes well with. "Silly faggot,Dix are for chix!" Hehehehehe

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