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NY Clerk Refuses to Sign Gay Marriage Docs

In a move sure to highlight the limits of freedom of conscience and religion, one New York town clerk is saying she'll refuse to sign any documents relating to a same sex marriage.

Something like this is great for your soul but it's probably bad for your career prospects.

The Politico reports:

New York’s gay weddings victory lap has not extended to all parts of the Empire State, with a rural town clerk determined to not sign any same-sex marriage licenses.

Barbara MacEwen, the town clerk in upstate Volney who is responsible for signing marriage licenses in the town, said she’s morally opposed to same-sex weddings and does not intend to affix her signature to any marriage documents for gay or lesbian couples.

“If there’s any possible way to not do it legally, then yes, I would not want to put my name on any of those certificates or papers,” MacEwen told POLITICO. “That’s their life, they can do it, but I don’t feel I should be forced into something that’s against my morals and my God.”

MacEwen said she’s written her state senator — Republican Patty Ritchie, who voted against legalizing gay weddings — to determine her legal options.

While the legislation Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed late Friday night includes exemptions for religious organizations that disapprove of same-sex couples, it does not extend such protections to public officials.

Cuomo spokesman Josh Vlasto did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

MacEwen, a 75-year-old Republican, said she will be on the ballot this fall for a fifth, full four-year term as clerk of the town of about 6,200 people.
What'll be interesting is if she wins reelection. Does the Governor forcibly remove her from her job?

Maybe she shouldn't have the job if she can't do the job as detailed by today's laws. Here's the thing -in America today we're going to see this all the time. Freedom of conscience is going to match up poorly against the power of the state. All you have to do is look around the world to see how that fight usually ends. Hint- it doesn't go well for conscience.

The rules that NY legislators put into effect will be meaningless in the future. Somewhere down the road (not that far) some legislators are going to say Catholic schools must accept people who are married to someone of the same sex. And when they don't the state will toss their tax exempt status. And that'll start the landslide of taking away tax exempt status from hate groups like...the Catholic Church.

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22 comments:

PattyinCT said...

If we're seeing it in abortions foisted on the medical community then why should we be surprised at this?

And what about school teachers who don't want to teach homosexuality to their students? I'm telling you, this is a downward spiral on all sides of the debate...

Anonymous said...

It would be interesting to see what would happen if a Muslim New York town clerk refused to sign them because of his or her religious beliefs. Those legislators would be falling all over themselves to be sure those religious rights were protected.

Kathy

Anonymous said...

They would be falling all over themselves because they know the Muslim would probably blow them up or cut off their heads on youtube if forced to go against their "conscience".

I'll say one thing, the Muzzies aren't going to be pushed around on these sorts of issues.

Anonymous said...

We can be sure that there are plenty out there who already see the Catholic Church as a so-called "hate group"

Only sadness

Robert Hagedorn said...

It's all about sodomy. For a surprise, do a search: First Scandal.

Pat said...

I've been convinced for a long time that the Church is headed towards hate group status. I'm almost certain We'll see it within a generation. Father Hardon once said that in the 21st century it will take heroic sanctity to follow the Church. Either we'll become saints or we'll fall away. There will be no in between. I thought he was being a bit extreme when I first heard that, but it's no longer so hard for me to believe.

Fr William E Bauer TFSC PhD said...

God likes Christianity. It will survive.

Anonymous said...

Okay, I guess I need to think my comments through to someone else's logical conclusion before posting them.

My point wasn't to slam the Muslims, it was to point out the inequality in this country. It seems everyone's beliefs (or lack thereof) are respected except Christians'. I could have said the same thing about an atheist clerk, except I'm pretty sure atheists have no problem with gay "marriage", at least on religious grounds.....

Kathy

Susan L said...

I'm a Catholic church organist who subcontracts out to other churches. I've played at Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopalian and Baptist Churches. I wonder if I'm going to have to stop playing at non-Catholic churches for fear of being sued for discrimination.

This is going to be hard on my livelihood as Catholic parishes will continue to merge and there will be fewer playing jobs.

Ranting Catholic Mom said...

The 1st amendment prevents congress making any law that restricts the 'free excise' of religion. The only way to undo this mess is to show that it will interfere with our ability to freely exercise our faith. This woman is on the front lines. I hope she wins, but if this goes the way of adoption in Massachusetts, she'll have to depend on someone like Mitt Romney to cut her slack. Unions get a break on Obama care from the great dictator. Some non-Catholic adoption agencies get a break from Romney... Do you see where this is going?

Anonymous said...

Somewhere down the road (not that far) some legislators are going to say Catholic schools must accept people who are married to someone of the same sex. And when they don't the state will toss their tax exempt status.

What does that mean? As employees? Or accepting, as students, the children of same-sex couples?

Anonymous said...

I don't mean to be anonymous, I just don't know how to sign in differently on the comments. janet.fernandez1@yahoo.com, that's my facebook e-mail. The question above about Catholic schools was me.
janf

Ranting Catholic Mom said...

Catholic schools have already had to go to court to fight when they fired teachers who were openly living with a someone outside of marriage. Whenever I've taught in Catholic schools I've signed a moral turpitude clause. That may be the only recourse schools have for employees. But it won't apply to parents.

Anonymous said...

Nothing is worse than homosexuality. I would rather see Catholic married people commit adultery or divorce and remarry than our secular state tolerate something as disgusting as gay marriage.

Ranting Catholic Mom said...

Anonymous at 8:30--

I'm with ya'.

Anonymous said...

Only when the Church loses its tax exempt status will it begin to be free. But go ahead and fight it, since things have been going so swimmingly well this last century for the Catholic Church in America.

Anonymous said...

The Catholic church and schools' tax exempt status comes from the fact that parishioners and church members have paid their taxes as citizens and to tax churches would be taxation without representation, that is, double taxation, two taxes for one vote.

Mary De Voe

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Nothing is worse than homosexuality. I would rather see Catholic married people commit adultery or divorce and remarry than our secular state tolerate something as disgusting as gay marriage.

Gay marriage is assault and battery.Any violation of natural law, adultery, divorce, rampaging sodomy is contrary to the Divine, telling God one cannot behave even with His Divine Grace which is a LIE and makes of us LIARS.

Mary De Voe

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't mean to be anonymous, I just don't know how to sign in differently on the comments. janet.fernandez1@yahoo.com, that's my facebook e-mail. The question above about Catholic schools was me.
janf
Thanks Janet. I share the same situation. Do not know how to use facebook or any of this technology. I write what I think and hope it gets read. mary_devoe@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

@Ranting Catholic Mom "the great dictator" right on the money.
Mary De Voe

Anonymous said...

Attention: Christians, Muslims and Jews and whoever you are. This is not about religion, religion being man's response to God's gift of Faith, nor is it about conscientious objection to immorality. THIS IS ABOUT UNAUTHORIZED USE OF ANOTHER PERSON’S PREROGATIVE. BARBARA MACEWEN WAS NOT ALLOWED, NOT PERMITTED, WAS DENIED, HER SOVEREIGN RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE GOVERNING OF THE PEOPLE. Barbara MacEwen's citizenship, her very freedom of speech was stifled at the ballot box. Her sovereign personhood who constitutes our nation was violated, assaulted and battered by those devils in human form, who use assault and battery at every level of human existence to destroy human kind from the face of the earth. The burden of proof is on the usurpers, the arrogant. Let them prove that their unauthorized use of another sovereign person’s suffrage, right to vote, freedom to be heard and participate in the government of the people WAS LEGITIMATE AND CONSTITUTIONAL AND DOES NOT VIOLATE Barbara MacEwen’s citizenship, that Barbara MacEwen has not been objectified and become property of the state, as a tax payer with no voice in government but subject to taxation without representation. THIS IS ABOUT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE that this nation shall not perish from the face of the earth. LET THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE BE HEARD AND LISTENED TO. LET THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE COMMON GOOD BE FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY.
Here we Americans are fighting for the liberation of oppressed people the world over, that they might be free to vote and participate in the governing of their nation and we are being disallowed to vote in freedom in America. What hypocracy. What waste. What evil in human form. The biggest lie the GREAT LIAR ever tells is that it is all religion and everybody body falls in line. The biggest lie the GREAT LIAR uses to defraud individual of their happiness.

Mary De Voe

Anonymous said...

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868.
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Barbara MacEwen is disenfrachised and taxed without representation.

Mary De Voe

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