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Gay People Smoke! A Lot!

This has to confuse the left. At least a little.

It turns out that Slate reports "It’s dismaying but not surprising, then, to learn from a new study that a startling 33 percent of LGBTQ people smoke—a rate 68 percent higher than the general U.S. population."

Holy smokes. Maybe we should dissuade young people from gay sex because it leads to...smoking.


Of course, it's other people's faults. According to the same report it's because "a tragically high number of gay people are told that they are diseased, aberrant, intrinsically disordered throughout their youths, fostering a self-loathing that can lead, if not to suicide, than to nearly suicidal activities."

See. You knew it was your fault, didn't you?

So Joe the Camel is illegal. But advocacy of the gay lifestyle continues. Even though this makes the kids more likely to smoke. Hey, I'm just looking for a little consistency in logic.



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22 comments:

Mary De Voe said...

We need God.

akg41470 said...

No, you need to stop telling LGBT people they are bad. Just deal with your own issues and leave them be, eh?

matthew archbold said...

It's science!

Steve Dalton said...

Sad, they would rather smoke themselves to death, rather than quit lusting after two kinds of fags.

cfe28a78-7a0e-11e3-b4f9-000bcdcb471e said...

matthew archbold, why don't you comment on steve dalton's disgusting comment? and yes, depression is mainly caused my self-hatred, and outside pressure. that has nothing to do with being gay in itself or relationships

Ryan said...
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Ryan said...

I'm not sure I followed the article's point that a higher percentage must obviously be related to self esteem (after all many of my European friends, some of whom have PhDs smoke very often, not because of self perception but because they were surrounded by smokers in their teens/early adult life). However the article made an point that should matter to any of us who are reading this and are Catholics: do our words and actions (individuals, I'm not speaking for the Church here) help young people in our Church who are struggling with sexual identity? There is obviously always going to be a tension with the larger gay community and the Church because of Church teachings regarding romantic activity but this doesn't preclude reaching out to people in the Church who hear us use language like f** (that word is rather offensive and is usually only used in hateful manner, just like the c-word against women) and feel like we don't want them there. This article mentioned the high suicide rate among young gay people. Those of us who are Catholic recognize that the soul matters too: Do we want to encourage people to leave the Church by calling them names or telling them they don't belong? I'm not suggestion we ignore any Church teaching, I'm just suggesting we help people see themselves as loved by Christ and by the Church.

Sorry for the deleted post above, I was proofreading and meant to click preview but clicked publish the first time.

Alex S said...

Mundabor, you are a interesting fellow. Maybe one day you can lose the anonymity?

Steve Dalton said...

cfe, your self-hatred comes from your practice of habitual sin and lack of repentance. When I sin, I blame no one but myself, and I seek reconciliation via confession. As for my 'disgusting' remarks, I'll assume that you find what God says about buggery through his prophets and apostles to be equally disgusting.

cfe28a78-7a0e-11e3-b4f9-000bcdcb471e said...

i do not hate myself. i never said i did, you always find some way to manipulate my words. an not at all, having an attraction is not a sin, so i dont understand why you keep saying that it is. you still can't recognize that. ill also assume that you are not a catholic.

Pat said...

Steve Dalton you call people "fags" on an internet chat forum? Brave man. Do you use the N word also? What about the C word? Why don't you give the full list now of your filthy drivel?

Steve Dalton said...

cfe, you claim you only have same sex attraction, but if you're not acting out, why are you filled with self hatred? As for 'outside pressure', baloney! It's what's inside that drives us to sin.

Pat, have you read the Bible lately? Especially Romans 1:18-32? So if you want a full list of my filthy drivel, there it is.

cfe28a78-7a0e-11e3-b4f9-000bcdcb471e said...

Steve Dalton, I wasn't talking about myself, nor did I claim that I only have samesex attraction. Keep manipulating my words. There was a speeling error, its pretty obvious to see that i meant "by" not "my". Where is my self-hatred? Tell me, because you obviously know more about me than myself. And I never said outside pressure drives us to sin, not sure where you are getting that idea from. Being attracted to the same sex is not a sin in catholicism. It states it in the catechism. So you should not be calling people who are solely attracted to the same sex and do not act upon it sinners based on their attraction.

Pat and Ryan, thank you for Your continuing efforts on various posts! Its really unfortunate that the moderators and other commentors do not care about the lack of compassion to LGBT people

Steve Dalton said...

cfe, you made the claim you were 'gay", that you suffered from self-hate and depression, yet your "gayness" isn't the cause of it. Sorry Charlie, but I've read enough stuff about sodomy to know that the SSA and the acting out of it causes depression and self-hate. You're only fooling yourself with your silly denials.

"Lack of compassion to LGBT people." We don't lack compassion toward sodomites. We want you to have eternal life. What we lack is sympathy toward a self destructive lifestyle that destroys individuals, their families, and the greater societies they live in. Frankly, I'm sooo tired of hearing about how certain groups are sooo oppressed by us normal folks. Hey, wake up! It's your own perverse desires and behaviors toward your fellow catamites and us normal folks that's "oppressing" your kind. Stop whining about our so-called "lack of compassion" and renounce the "gay identity" meme. You might find that we have a lot of compassion for folks like you after all.

cfe28a78-7a0e-11e3-b4f9-000bcdcb471e said...

yes i did mention on a previous article that i am gay, and no i never said i hate myself or am depressed, it was a typo, I seriously dont understand how you dont see that. you deliberately choose to avoid my statement and misconstrue it to throw the blame on me of victimizing myself. You also fail to recognize that being attracted to the same sex does not necessarily mean that one acts on it, and there for are not sinning. it is very clear that you do not uphold catholic teachings or beliefs at all. To quote the catechism:

"358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. They do not choose their homosexual condition; for most of them it is a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition"

In previous articles you said you do not have to respect people who have the attraction...sorry to break it to you, but you are violating the catechism teaching.

Lynda said...

The survey can only apply to those who have identified themselves in that way.

Steve Dalton said...

The catechism is not an infallible document. Church tradition (see Romans 1:18-32) plainly teaches that sodomy is a choice. Otherwise, God was unjust in raining brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah for their unnatural acts.

cfe, it's obvious to me that your not defending so-called chaste catimites, you have been defending sodomy itself. Your special pleading for LBGT people tells me you're still oriented toward that lifestyle. Maybe you are still confused on gender issues. Why don't you contact Courage? They can help you reorient you to normal sexuality and the Catholic faith. Please get in touch with them before your problem gets worse.

cfe28a78-7a0e-11e3-b4f9-000bcdcb471e said...

steve, please contact your local priest, for you have no idea what is involved in catholic teaching. yes the "act of sodomy" is a choice.....having an attraction to do that is not. you dont get it! i am merely stating that you are not following catholic teaching by insulting gay people even those who do not choose to "sin". im critiquing your so-called "catholicism" not asserting lgbt rights at all. if the catechism is not infallible, then neither is the pope or its other teachings. you destroy all that your beliefs represent by not accpeting the catechism (aka Catholic teaching). I left the church, for other reasons. and yes, i am in a relationship. it is my life, my choice, and i am willing to face the consequences for that. regardless, seeing that catholic teaching is not implemented by "catholics" on these blogs intrigues me and gives me the urge to point it out.

Pat said...

Steve,

Don't hide behind a scriptural citation. The slur "fag" does not appear in scripture. So man man-up and show us all the dirty words you know. You know you want to....

Steve Dalton said...

Pat, since you seem to know those words, you can tell us what they are. Of course Mr. Archbold will have to blue pencil you for such filthy talk, but that's the price you have to pay for your 'knowledge'.

Pat said...

No, Steve, you're the one who gets off saying filthy slurs, not me. Why quiet down now? Monitors here don't censor your smutty mouth, so have at it!

Pat said...

Steve, let me leave you with another thought and please read it over and over again so it gets deep inside your head:

"Your parents should be ashamed of you."

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