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NCR Deceit, Perfidious NCR Deceit, And Statistics

We outsource lies now. It is not necessary to lie directly, all one needs to do is concoct a cockamamie poll to do the lying for you.

Case in point. The National Catholic Reporter (aka Fishwrap) (aka known as the heretical progressive news outlet that defiantly uses the name Catholic even though prohibited by the Bishop) (aka the lamest newspaper ever that recently lost its singular claim to legitimacy)

Yeah, the National Catholic Reporter still has its panties in a twist over the new(ish) translation of the mass into English. While this is old news and a non-story to every normal person because its introduction was so unremarkable and smooth, to NCR and their ilk this is still a travesty and an affront to their progressive sensibilities. So it is that they make great hay out of a "study" that indicates "wide rejection of new translations by US clergy."

NCR says "A vast majority of leaders of U.S. Catholic parishes polled for a new survey say they find the new English translation of the Mass "awkward and distracting," with half agreeing it "urgently needs to be revised.""

Omigosh!!! Really? I had no idea!!

The 'study', by Georgetown's Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) is not a study at all. It is a self-selective survey and utterly meaningless as any kind of measure of acceptance of the new translation.

Why do I say this? Buried deep in the article NCR reports "CARA sent its survey to 6,000 parishes before receiving the 539 responses. "

They sent a survey to 6,000 parishes (out of over 17,000 parishes in the U.S.)and got back 539. 539 answers of people who went out of their way to answer the survey. This means that 5,461 parishes thought so little of the matter that they didn't even bother to return the survey. These results are meaningless. I mean, this is no more scientific if I put up a web poll on CMR (or even Rorate Caeli) asking people what they thought of the translation. It would be meaningless as a measure of general sentiment. The respondents are self selecting. In the case of the CARA survey, it is extremely likely that people with strong feelings against the translation were much more likely to respond. This is so obvious you don't even need a self-selecting poll to prove it.

The introduction of the new translation has been a total non event in the lives of Catholics and has been easily and generally accepted. This article and 'study' is absurd. But that is what liars do, they lie.


*subhead*Ridiculous.*subhead*

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17 comments:

Patrick Archbold said...

As far as Abp. Gregory is concerned, the more tinkering we do with the Missal, the more people will get turned off to the Catholic faith. The Novus Ordo Missae is liturgy by committee based on weak scholarship and serious misunderstandings about the spirit of the liturgy, and they keep trying to get it right. One, they can't, simply because humans are not capable of striking that balance, and two, it's OK to let one element, even one genuinely regarded as important, be second to another more important one. The Cong. for the Eastern Churches said as much when the CCOC was promulgated and the issue of Communion in the hand was raised. It's applicable to the wider liturgical context, I feel.

Patrick Archbold said...

Not to mention that it's not something one votes on and therefore how many priests reject it isn't really relevant.

Patrick Archbold said...

I have no difficulty at all with the Mass (including "consubstantiation"), and I barely finished high school. The Mass is elegant and respectful, focused on God and not on a Peter, Paul, and Mary song. The previous Mass was a pat-the-bunny construct for 1968. The Mass we have now is for eternity.
My parish priest is against it, but then last Sunday he replaced the Communion hymn with a recording of some poor girl with an adenoid problem yowling out a hillbilly come-to-Jaysus racket.

Patrick Archbold said...

Probably because this is a merger of convenience and Hoag is not really pro-life.

Patrick Archbold said...

Freedom of speech does not allow the dictates of state to usurp that freedom or to dictate the speech. Only the citizen exercises the freedom of speech. Otherwise it is the group that owns the individual and this is called communism.

Patrick Archbold said...

a. the study is useless and devoid of meaning. Get on with your life and focus on Christ.
b. the study is right on and the sample size is irrelevant. God is probably not impresed with a majority vote and already has an appointed group to sort through this. Get on with your life and focus on Christ.
But do you know what is disruptive. The peace offering. Stop everythig. Shake hands. But thats my opinion and I do what the Magesterium has decided constitutes a proper Holy Sacrific of the Mass because it isnt about me.

Patrick Archbold said...

Less than 3% of Catholic parishes are represented. Yet the "Pray Tell" blog touts this as a landmark study. Hardly.

Patrick Archbold said...

CARA studies are wildly uneven. Some of them are worthless.

Patrick Archbold said...

Unions do it all the time. Teacher salaries come from taxes, teachers must belong to unions or pay a fee, lots of that money goes to elections. Same thing with other public worker unions... and PP.

Patrick Archbold said...

Even John you-knuckel-dragging-Taliban-Catholics-need-to-be-more-charitable Allen got in on the act when he was giving a talk on the persecution of Christians abroad (no argument here) and then made a disgusting comparison that we were wasting time arguing about the translation when Christian bretheren were suffering. Well, the only people keeping the argument about the translation alive is people in John's camp. So can we pleeeease stop pretending Allen is some kind of sole voice of reason at NCR?

Patrick Archbold said...

Is that people versus parishes? As in, 539 people out of all of the parishes? Is that even a percentage?

Patrick Archbold said...

"Hey, this is disordered California".
Of course the government tells "us" what to do, how we are to think and how to behave. There is no private business. The gov judges and scrutinizes public commerce closely in everything and they decide acceptability standards. They will destroy your life and livelyhood without due process. They are doing it now. Its an underhanded, back door "marshal law" thing, no big deal to the pro-grazis. We all know its crazy here. No one will be surprised if the government enforces compliance with the abortion and euthanasia agendas, eventually, through militant armed gaurds. Its like a nancy pelosi thing! She will defend it at all costs.

Unfortunately, some of us (the best and brightest!) have left jobs over this cr@p! Don't like working under cohersion, threat or an adverse, hostile environment just because you want to "help" people. Some people have made the hard choices, for their faith. In rememberence, for not going to hell, for anything or anyone.

Patrick Archbold said...

This is why people should just go to the proper Mass and not worry about it. It's such a point of division.

Patrick Archbold said...

If you don't like the translation, Fathers, you can always celebrate it in Latin.

Patrick Archbold said...

Especially when moral cowardice is the essence of the politician.

Patrick Archbold said...

the NRA isn't in the people killing business. NRA members hunt (for many people, that's meat on the table). Individuals can abuse the right to own guns when they hurt others, but the NRA does NOT condone that. PP DOES condone killing babies.

Patrick Archbold said...

Facebook CEO donated 992 million this year (2014) to Silicon Valley Community Foundation, which last year donated close to half a million to PP. It is possible that he and his wife earmarked the money for non-PP purposes, but that is a lot of money. The worst-case scenario, a contribution to PP bigger than the government grants.

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