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Pelosi Washes Immigrant Feet At Episcopal Church

BARF


House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (left) prepares to pour water on the feet of Yamile Cruz, 10, with the help of Bishop Marc Andrus during a Holy Week foot-washing ceremony at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Photo: Leah Millis, San Francisco Chronicle

Double Barf. If such immigrants voted Republican, she would be chopping their feet off to keep them from crossing the border.

Triple Barf.

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35 comments:

Patrick Archbold said...

Well, Ninny is only following the examples set by bright (?) boys like O'Malley!

Patrick Archbold said...

Comment I made over at Father Z's was this.
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By expanding the Mandatum to include everyone and making it all about “service”, it seems to be taking something that was part of the Holy Thursday liturgy for symbolic purposes and turning it into some manner of spectacle. Where before you could easily see the connection between Christ washing the feet of His priests in the context of the institution of the priesthood, the open calls or even choreographing of this event to include a diverse representation of people will only make this a man-centered distraction IMHO. In fact, I now look for Holy Thursday’s news soundbite every year to be “who was chosen to have their feet washed by the Pope” and why didn’t he choose a homosexual or Asian or whatever.

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And then I see this. Didn't take long.

Patrick Archbold said...

As to chopping off feet, she already supports that for unborn humans.

Patrick Archbold said...

She's not doing it during Mass. Anyone can wash anyone's feet any time except once a year. So get out there!!! Wash some feet!!!

Patrick Archbold said...

Why wouldn't Pelosi wash some TEC feet? Having washed her hands of Jesus Christ and His Church, she could care less whose butt she kisses, er, washes as long as she can use a photo op to get votes.


Andrus, readers might recall, is the whiny attention hound who felt dissed and left Archbishop Cordileone's installation because he wasn't seated promptly after arriving late.


Andrus, no friend to Catholics, grossly misrepresented the Catholic teaching on sexuality in the Prop 8 battles.


Andrus and Pelosi are a perfect fit for each other. Heretics love company, and Andrus' dwindling flock needs all the irreverent and irrelevant company it can get. Birds of a feather. So why doesn't Pelosi simply flock off and join the Episcop-aliens?

Patrick Archbold said...

I doubt Pope Francis will mind. :(

Patrick Archbold said...

I thought she claimed to be a 'devout katholyc'? But the Episcopal church is definitely more her style because anything goes there and they vote on what their 'doctrine' is as the world dictates.

Patrick Archbold said...

There were two kinds of foot-washing rituals before Pius XII brought the ritual into the Holy Thursday liturgy. One was a foot washing of "the poor" to demonstrate the humility of the office. the other was the foot washing of "the brothers" that was more closely aligned with the Last Supper. Pius XII, moved the latter into the liturgy and essentially dropped the former.

I think the former is more valuable in our current times, but the rubrics are for the latter. I don't care a whole lot if the Pope changes the practice, and see a lot of reason to do so, I just wish he would change the rubrics if he is going to change the practice. I don't care if women or even non-Catholics get their feet washed in the Holy Thursday liturgy, I only care that clergy are ignoring the rubrics to do it.



As a parent, it's really hard to have the lesson I'm trying to teach that we need to obey the laws of the Church constantly undermined by the clergy and others in authority positions in the Church.

Patrick Archbold said...

Indeed, either change the rules or follow them. Easy.


But still, changing and making it part of the Liturgy is only going to create more crap like we see here. Plus, bringing up random people comes across as contrived. Leave the symbolic alone (that is keep it reserved to men who represent the Apostles) and then add something outside of the Liturgy for the masses.

Patrick Archbold said...

To speak from my liturgist armchair, I would prefer to see the "apostolic" foot washing be part of the Chrism mass, a liturgy that is already very clergy-focused. That would really emphasize the apostolic nature of the action much more than having a bunch of random guys get up there. I would then prefer to see the "populous" foot washing be a rite *before* the Holy Thursday liturgy .. if we are to do it at all in our parishes.

This actually gets to a general thought of mine: there is a real difference between a liturgy celebrated by a priest and a liturgy celebrated by a bishop and I don't think we express that well. I think that our historic attempts to make our parish churches "mini cathedrals" has been very bad for church architecture, and I think that our blurring of the lines between priests and bishops liturgically has been bad for liturgy. Just because something is in a liturgy celebrated by a bishop does not mean that it needs to be in a liturgy celebrated by a priest. And I think the foot-washing kerfluffle exemplifies this.

Sorry for the slight tangent.

Patrick Archbold said...

Good tangent. And I have had a similar thought that the Bishop should do the foot washing only but to his priests.

But this..."I would then prefer to see the "populous" foot washing be a rite *before* the Holy Thursday liturgy"



Seems like such a "bolt-on" addition that is out of place. I just assume get rid of it altogether. And I believe that is what is ultimately going to happen as priests just exercise the option of not doing it. It avoids the headache of "who get's their feet washed" and puts the focus back on Holy Week.

Patrick Archbold said...

I don't know if its a bolt on. As I understand it (and I'm more than willing to be corrected if I am wrong), that is where it used to be. And when you think about it, Jesus did it before the last supper, so doing it before the mass makes a certain sense.

I think we would really lose something if we lost the rite completely. The expression of humility is a good antidote for the ever-present and multifaceted problem of clericism. But you also see how it eclipses the rest of the liturgy in some parishes, and that is a real problem as well.

Patrick Archbold said...

Jesus did it before the Last Supper to his Apostle. He didn't have a "free-for-all foot washing." It very well may have been before the Mass in the past, but there was probably a reason, out of natural development that it was removed. Perhaps because it became a spectacle and eclipsing things as you point out. Indeed, it might be a bit of humility for some priests, but if you start making it such an event, it will become a source of pride for the laity.

Patrick Archbold said...

I doubt Jesus would approve of murder of babies into the many millions, condoned and encouraged by this foul hypocrite for power.

Patrick Archbold said...

This is very curious. What is Nancy Pelosi doing at an Episcopal church on Holy Thursday instead of a Catholic Church? She claims she's a very devout Catholic. One wonders if this newest recipient of the Margaret Sanger award has had a call from her Archbishop, recently.

Patrick Archbold said...

Caption: Those awful Republicans would charge you for the foot washing, or tell you that you must wash your own.

Patrick Archbold said...

Today is the first day of the Divine Mercy Novena. Bring all mankind, especially sinners and immerse them in the ocean of My mercy.
Hey nan, today is a most fortunate day for you! Not going to verbally chastise you about your unbelievable and outrageous nonsense, today. You are going to be the recipient, of a heroic act of charity, today. It is taking thoughts and prayers of Jesus and Mary, not to be provocative about this latest escapade with a protestant bishop, today. Enjoy the moment, don't know how long I can hold out with out God's grace! Your incredible indescretions and antics just go begging for coherent response. Protestant, really?

Patrick Archbold said...

Amen! Divine Mercy Novena begins today ;)

Patrick Archbold said...

With a trail of martyrs' blood all the way back to 1535.

Patrick Archbold said...

MaryW1 and M P P, Pelosi claimed to be an observant Catholic not a devout Catholic. Huge difference. Unfortunately the term observant Catholic fits way too many poorly catechized Catholics. The form is observed without much if any content. Especially during Holy week, this brings to mind the Pharisaic Jews of Scripture and we know what they ultimately did.

Patrick Archbold said...

A photo op she jumped at. Does this mean that she'll be converting to the Episcopalians? Please, God, may it be so.

Patrick Archbold said...

Maybe she's considering converting? Please, do it.

Patrick Archbold said...

Because by the time they turn 18 she doesn't expect to need votes any more?

Patrick Archbold said...

Actually, Pelosi have used the word "devout" to describe her Catholicism on at least on occasion.

Patrick Archbold said...

The former House Speaking is full of surprises.

Patrick Archbold said...

Well it does, at least, indicate the enormous prestige of the papacy. Do you think she would be doing this if it was a tradition of the mormons or baptists?

Patrick Archbold said...

did she receive Episcopalian communion? Would that tell us something?

Patrick Archbold said...

Democrats 'convert' people through some pretty insidious newspeak. Otherwise, they would simply be aborting their voting base. Now if republicans werent so useles...

Patrick Archbold said...

Finally, she made a good decision. Convert to the religion of convenience and stop giving Catholics a black eye.

Patrick Archbold said...

The "popular" foot washing wasn't about what Jesus did, but what he commanded when he did it: "For I have set you an example, that you also should do as I have done to you." And this is why there were two foot washings, one as a commemoration of what Jesus did, one to fulfill in a literal and ritualistic way what He commanded.

We should always be wary of spectacle, but if something like this becomes a source of pride for the laity, there is a very profound spiritual sickness in that parish. I've been one of the 12 men before and it was probably more humbling for me than it was for my kneeling priest. Peter's reaction is the natural one.

The risk of eclipsing is the real risk to me.

Patrick Archbold said...

Yes, I understand why there were two foot washings. Simply answer is to keep the one for the laity out of the liturgy and leave that reserved to the symbolism of the institution of the priesthood. We can do volunteerism and charity at a different time and truthfully when you set up an event to simply wash the feet of the poor as an example of charity, it kind of misses the mark. Seeing Nancy Pelosi do it really accentuates that as it looks too contrived.


And if this is needed in the liturgy as a measure to keep prideful priests in check, then there is also a more profound spiritual sickness in the parish. So your point cuts both ways.


But at the end of the day, it's already now become a spectacle.

Patrick Archbold said...

I think I largely agree with you. But in the face of the risks, I tend more to the line of thinking that we should do it right rather than not do it all. But I certainly understand the inclination to prefer not to do it at all and simply avoid the problem.



One final point as clarification though. I don't see the rite as a cure for prideful priests, but a counteraction against clericism. Seeing even a ritualized act of humility is not just good for priests, but perhaps even moreso for the laity.

Patrick Archbold said...

Understand your last point and noted.


So given it all, I will put forth my recommendation that I had last year when this all transpired. (If I haven't already).


That is, the Holy Father could have easily kept the traditional and symbolic washing of the twelve men for the purposes of the liturgy (in his case priests) and then right after the Mass, sent them out to wash the feet of the poor right on the streets. Win-win.

Patrick Archbold said...

That would have been awesome, especially if he joined them.

Patrick Archbold said...

She's lied on many more occasions than that.

From The Weekly Standard on June 13, 2013:

"Asked what the moral difference is between what Dr. Kermit Gosnell did to babies born alive and aborting those same infants moments before birth, Pelosi refused to answer.

"As a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this." "



Sacred ground?

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