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I found your post with a quote about Herbert W. Ar...

2008-10-06T19:39:40.741-04:00

I found your post with a quote about Herbert W. Armstrong's teaching about a future unity of Europe interesting. I remember hearing Herbert W. Armstrong on the radio during the seventies and I think the early eighties. He had a lot to say about Europe. At that time, Europe was not as close to unity as it is today. One thing that is different so far from what he predicted is that the European Union is secular, not religious. But this could change. If the world and Europe are faced with a terrifying crisis and if a charismatic religious leader appears, people in Europe may turn away from secularism and towards the Catholic Church, and the leaders of Europe may encourage this if it helps create unity.

People often turn to religion in times of need or fear (remember the saying, there is no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole). There may be a root of religious feeling in Europe that has been surpressed, but will express itself given the right circumstances.

Actually, that quote from Isaiah is taken complete...

2008-10-01T08:04:16.199-04:00

Actually, that quote from Isaiah is taken completely out of context. He wrote from a historical point of view with regard to a series of events, which ARE quite similar to those we find ourselves in now.

I can't remember what was stated in our Old Testament class (gosh, only a couple weeks ago now...) but that very prophecy was discussed. It's not alluding to a future event, but to their "present".

Yet, other prophecies of Isaiah, such as the sign given to Ahaz (a young woman shall give birth to a child and his name will be Emmanual, "God is with us"), applied BOTH to their situation and to the messianic significance.

We have to be very careful when it comes to so-called "End time" prophecies, for we've been in the end times since the Resurrection of Christ.

That said...our country has abandoned God, just as did the Israelites back in the 700's BC. And we can expect God to leave us to our own designs as a natural consequence of our ongoing disobedience.

But you know...if that's what it takes to inspire conversion, well, suffering works in other parts of the world, and it'll work here, too once we're stripped of our materialism and consumerism.

Wow - finally, a Catholic who knows the Catholic p...

2008-09-29T06:57:25.383-04:00

Wow - finally, a Catholic who knows the Catholic perspective on the chastisement and other coming events!