Comments on Creative Minority Report: The Dinosaurs Doth Protest Too Much

The one "kudo" I see for the Novus Ordo is that it...

2007-10-28T16:47:15.520-04:00

The one "kudo" I see for the Novus Ordo is that it does bring protestants back to the true church. I heard Rob Evans "The Donut Man" speak on his own journey home. He said that he loves the Latin Mass, but it was the Novus Ordo that brought him home. Many protestants have been told that Catholics do not read the Bible. The entire Mass, however, is based on scripture. If the Mass was available only in Latin, many of our separated brothers and sisters in Christ would remain separated. I believe both rites have their place, and only time and opportunity will reveal the truth about which is more popular.

Ja, ja, Patrick,What was it someone said?...For th...

2007-10-28T03:41:46.185-04:00

Ja, ja, Patrick,

What was it someone said?...
For those who posses a sense of humor no explanation is necessary. For those who do not, no explanation is possible.

tede
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Mr. McBrien is now a discredited intellectual. A ...

2007-10-27T17:51:10.698-04:00

Mr. McBrien is now a discredited intellectual.

A poll done long before S.P. found that over 15% of faithful would attend the T.L.M. regularly on Sundays were it reasonably convenient for them to do so. That's a sizable minority, not a tiny one. It is impossible to assess demand for the old Mass because there is very little access to it (duh!). In order to assess demand, it would have to be available on the same basis as the New Mass is. McBrien's illogic runs like this: they can only want it if they are nostalgic for it, and they can't be nostalgic for it because we have cut off their access to it.

How can people be nostalgic for something they never knew? First of all, many newcomers are not nostalgic at all. They prefer a Mass that is Catholic rather than Protestant in spirit. They recognise quality and dignity when they see it. They yearn for the mystery that any serious consideration of God must entail. At the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, they look for God not in themselves but beyond; He is transcendent.

Others are indeed nostalgic because they have had limited access to the old Mass by means of the 1984 Indult. This McBrien character needs to exercise the little grey cells more. Time to return to his University and compose something worth reading, preferably without taking it from others.

P.K.T.P.

Randy,Which particular name do you feel goes over ...

2007-10-27T16:52:14.490-04:00

Randy,
Which particular name do you feel goes over the line?

Wacko Progressive Condescending Dinosaur
Obnoxious (This one is merely descriptive.)
Angry Hippie
Stegosaurus and Gasosaurus
or
cretaceous era cranks (I am really proud of this one!)

P.S. Does the respect thing also apply to Jesuits? I thought maybe there is an exemption for them.
;-}

I do think a lot of the name calling goes beyond "...

2007-10-27T16:45:07.063-04:00

I do think a lot of the name calling goes beyond "good fun". There is a respect due to priests and bishops even when they are liberal.

Brilliant fun! I love the imagery. It really is ...

2007-10-27T15:49:49.967-04:00

Brilliant fun! I love the imagery. It really is "sour grapes" for the "Kum-ba-yah" (sp?)crowd and the more they whine the more I believe that they've seen the future and it doesn't have the applause and hand-holding they've come to expect. Bless their dear litte cretaceous hearts!

Anon,All in good fun. Besides, name calling is a ...

2007-10-27T15:33:42.379-04:00

Anon,
All in good fun. Besides, name calling is a lost art. Name calling, while much maligned today, has a long and storied pedigree. The founding fathers were pros at it. Why if you want to see some really good name calling, one need look no further that Matthew Chapter 23. In that chapter alone, Christ calls the scribes and Pharisees names 16 times. The names are “hypocrites” (7 times), “son of Hell” (once),”blind guides” (twice), “fools and blind” (3 times), “whited sepulchres” (once), “serpents” (once), and “offspring of vipers” (once).

I am simply an amateur!

oh Patrick, Patrick. "He started it"??? :)

2007-10-27T13:23:35.711-04:00

oh Patrick, Patrick. "He started it"??? :)

Anon,Vituperation is defined as "verbal abuse or c...

2007-10-27T12:56:27.263-04:00

Anon,
Vituperation is defined as "verbal abuse or castigation; violent denunciation or condemnation"

A little light hearted name calling (Angry hippie, dinosaurs, etc) is hardly vituperative. I didn't suggest they are evil or call for their extermination. In addition, name calling is fun.

Plus, he started it with the "day jobs" comment.

Peace out!

I do not support Father McBrien or his views at al...

2007-10-27T12:42:01.413-04:00

I do not support Father McBrien or his views at all but we do our "side" no good by personal vituperation. It might be better to stick to refuting what he is saying without the hyperbole. Just my 2 kopeks :)