Comments on Creative Minority Report: Compassion = Sterilization?

eulogos, Judging by the articles I've read, I don...

2010-03-17T06:30:20.531-04:00

eulogos,

Judging by the articles I've read, I don't think her kids feel that way. They travel with her when they can and help her spread the word about her program.

Wine in the Water,

It's only a "quiet companion" because MSM hasn't deemed it sensational enough to talk about.

Craig, So she is doing something. But referrals ...

2010-03-16T19:07:07.185-04:00

Craig,

So she is doing something. But referrals and encouraging correspondence are not much. They are a quiet companion to the very loud and dehumanizing message that it is a social ill that these women might breed.

Craig, As far as I can tell, this woman is sayi...

2010-03-16T12:35:46.435-04:00

Craig,
As far as I can tell, this woman is saying that the children she adopted shouldn't exist! She is saying to them, "It would have been better if you had never been born!"
Susan Peterson

Listen up Craig, it isn't awesome that this lady i...

2010-03-15T21:35:59.703-04:00

Listen up Craig, it isn't awesome that this lady is paying druggies to sterilize themselves like I said in the comment above no one should take away a gift from God.

It's not about if the birth control works, Dirtdar...

2010-03-15T21:33:11.701-04:00

It's not about if the birth control works, Dirtdartwife, it's the fact that she's taking it. Fertilization is a gift from God to women. According to my religion no one should have the right to take away fertilization.

lavatea, Italian/Irish, old-school, Roman Catholi...

2010-03-15T20:16:41.855-04:00

lavatea,

Italian/Irish, old-school, Roman Catholic. When nuns roamed the earth with pre-historic, sabre-tooth yardsticks.

Craig, Are you Catholic? Or do you just frequent ...

2010-03-15T18:12:45.293-04:00

Craig,

Are you Catholic? Or do you just frequent this Catholic blog because it has a political bent and you like to debate?

I'm truly curious.

Wine in the Water, From her website faq: 4. Why ...

2010-03-15T13:12:23.088-04:00

Wine in the Water,

From her website faq:

4. Why aren't you spending your money on drug treatment?

"Project Prevention offers drug treatment referrals to all women that enter our program. Further, we have gone to great lengths to assist some individuals into treatment, or to locate a treatment program for them."

and this:

6. What are you doing for the addicts? Do you even care what happens to them?

"Barbara Harris writes on a continual basis with countless Project Prevention clients. She frequently sends cards of encouragement applauding their efforts to get or stay clean. Project Prevention has referred hundreds of clients to drug treatment programs nationwide.

What many people fail to consider are the negative effects on a woman's self-esteem of continually having children that are taken away. That only leads to the women feeling worse about themselves, and often times, leads them deeper into their addiction."

link:

http://www.projectprevention.org

Craig, I see no mention in the article or a brief...

2010-03-15T12:38:34.393-04:00

Craig,

I see no mention in the article or a brief Google search that she is providing *any* kind of rehab services beyond the encouragement of her message. Maybe you can point us to how she is "actively involved in helping her clients get clean."

I can see why someone would take this route. It makes a lot of practical sense. But the simple reality is that we cannot condone evil means for good ends. These means are dehumanizing .. and far too reminiscent of the sterilizations of the mentally disabled that were once a part of "health" policies in the US.

Kevin, I am not simply "being contrarian", I genu...

2010-03-15T10:28:17.575-04:00

Kevin,

I am not simply "being contrarian", I genuinely admire this woman.

Also, she isn't just "sterilizing" women and walking away. She is actively involved in helping her clients get clean so they can get their kids back.

Craig, I have to admit that I completely fail to u...

2010-03-15T08:59:17.215-04:00

Craig, I have to admit that I completely fail to understand most of yoru contrarian posts, even from a charitable Catholic perspective. How can you call good evil and evil good? Whatever good this woman may be doing in her own life by adopting children, she's directly aiding and abetting the violation of Natural Law and gravely sinful actions in her efforts to sterilize women so as to allow them to continue using drugs, alcohol and indiscriminate sex irresponsibly (all actions which are inherently irresponsible in the extreme!), an effort which even in its most charitable form can be characterized as nothing more than giving a Band-Aid to an amputee and wishing them "good luck."

Such blindness to the unintended consequences of one's actions, whether or not one adheres to the tenets of our Catholic faith, inevitably leads to greater evils by, in a sense, empowering those who do wrong to continue doing so without having to face the consequences of their actions.

This is the real problem with many so-called "progressive" ideas: what may start with the best of intentions (and I do believe this woman and people like her genuinely believe they are doing good and helping) ends up destroying the human person, body and soul. Because they have utter contempt for the reality of sin and the need for redemption among all men, secularists/moral relativists like this woman remain blind to the tremendous damage they wreak on people's lives in this world, and perhaps their eternal souls in the next. The answer lies in admitting, then taking, personal responsibility for one's sinful actions, then amending one's life to live in the Truth, not against it. God's mercy is endless, but He always allows us free will, which is always best used when it chooses the Good, not sin.

Dirtdartwife is right on about this. So much in s...

2010-03-15T08:02:37.810-04:00

Dirtdartwife is right on about this. So much in society today is directed at the "symptom, " not the underlying problem. Oh, so your kid is very active, well, give him drugs, etc. etc. There's no easy fix (no pun intended) for difficult problems, and so many people don't want want to have to deal with difficulty and long term issues.

This woman is awesome! She personally adopted 4 c...

2010-03-15T06:27:36.752-04:00

This woman is awesome!

She personally adopted 4 children from the same crack-addicted woman and that's what inspired her to start the progam.

She has walked the walk.

I love what she tells critics who say she should focus on drug treatment programs:

"If they feel so strongly about it then they need to start an organisation that does what they are telling me to do. I am concentrating on women who are addicted to drugs who are getting pregnant over and over again. That is really my focus."

So what happens when that "long term birth control...

2010-03-14T23:53:43.403-04:00

So what happens when that "long term birth control" actually fails and the woman becomes pregnant? Does this program then pay for an abortion? I would suspect they'd highly advocate for one, but if it was their program that implanted this long term birth control do they pay for the abortion when it fails? And the poor child if the mother chooses to keep him/her and she continues her drug/alcohol habit. Oiy... what a horrible, ugly mess!