Actuating Schism Part V: The Hammer Drop

You can see all the previous parts to this series by clicking here.

So finally we are here, the last post in this series (at least for now). In the previous installments, we reviewed the systematic abuse of power repeatedly deployed to destroy pockets of resistance via the visitation process.  We have seen the synod process abused and twisted to serve the modernist aims of the cabal.  We have the nuclear force destruction to traditional Catholic monasticism that are the rule changes of VDQ and Cor Orans.  We have seen how the Bishops have had their long-standing authority to allow and invite catholic groups into their diocese removed and Rome exercising veto power, backed by realistic threat of summary dismissal with no due process via farcical visitation process for the made up crime of not getting along with your bishop's conference.

We have seen all that, and now we have seen the Italian Bishops Conference (CEI, a wholly owned subsidiary of Francis, Inc.) make a direct attack on the legitimacy and authority of Summorum Ponitificum and its statement that the TLM was never abrogated and thus delegitimizing the individual right of priest to say the mass.

These are all facts.  These things have all happened.  They are beyond serious dispute.

Again, what follows is my, hopefully, informed speculation.  But based upon the pattern of evidence of how they have systematically destroyed the ability to lead an authentic traditional religious life within the rules and power structures of the Church.  While at the same time systematically and severely restricting the rights and ability of any individual bishop to act as a safe harbor.

I must conclude that the attack on Summorum Pontificum at CEI was a trial balloon telegraphing what is coming in the same way that Cardinal Kasper's speech in early 2014 telegraphed the disaster to come on marriage that would manifest in the rigged synods and Amoris Laetitia. And I think I know why.  I suspect I know what they might intend.

Ok, you have done a lot of reading to get to this part.  Thank you.  So back to the original question and the title of this series, actuating schism. How do you make a defacto schism into a real one?  How do you get faithful traditional Catholics to be viewed as in schism?  Let's first define it.
Schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.
You cut off every possible way for traditional faithful Catholics to legitimately practice their faith without disobedience.

Based upon all the evidence and their way of operating.  Here is what I think might happen.

I think they will repeal Summorum Pontificum (specifically the individual right of priests to say the mass) while still allowing it under some super indult structure, a juiced up Ecclesia Dei.  I suspect the initial interest in bringing the SSPX back into the fold was that they could be the honey pot.  But since that didn't work, I suspect the plan is only slightly modified.

They will move us back to the indult era and consolidate us into a few groups (FSSP, ICKSP, etc) and some grandfathered indult locations.  They will claim, and their lickspittle brethren in the mainstream Catholic media will gush, that this is not an anti-Traditional move.  "The Pope hasn't done away with one single Traditional mass, this is about governance only."

And when the dust settles, that is when the Pope will lower the boom.  No, he won't ban the Traditional Latin Mass outright, I don't think.  Too much blowback for that and there is a much easier way to achieve his aims.  The Pope will do something much worse than ban it.  He is going to change it.  He is going to change the 1962 missal.

The Pope will exercise his legitimate authority to aggiornomento the 1962 missal.  Perhaps he will replace the lectionary with the current 3 year one, changes some prayers, permit communion in the hand, or some other changes that will shock the consciences of traditional Catholics.  They will Vatican Two the TLM.  You can hear them now, "The Pope didn't ban the Latin Mass, he just used his legitimate authority over the liturgy to make it more meaningful."

So there you have it.  Any approved group that resists the changes or complains too loud gets the Apostolic Visitation and is squashed for refusal to submit to the Pontiff.   Any diocesan indult community that resists is squashed.  And any Catholic who thinks he can go underground and just have masses said in someone's house?  Nope.  Individual priests no longer have the right to say the mass.  Do it and you have refused to submit to the authority of the Pope.  You are a schismatic.  So too any bishop.  You either accept the Vatican Two boot on your neck or you are a schismatic.

Any attempt to live an authentic traditional Catholic life, whether as a religious, or just attending the mass of the ages, will make you a schismatic by default.  Go SSPX, you are schismatic.  Go to an underground mass.  Schismatic.  Form a group of faithful under a traditional rule without permission of Rome, schismatic.  They will turn any and all attempts to live a traditional Catholic life into an act of disobedience.

And there it is.  This is how you make a defacto schism into a real one with the faithful Catholics on the outside looking in.  I know many of you will say that they can't legitimately exercise their authority in this way or that, and you are right.  But it doesn't matter.   The last 5 years prove that doesn't matter.  Power is the only thing that matters. They have cut off every escape path and are driving us to the cliff, because that is where they want us.  Choose.  Obedience or your faith.


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  1. Obedience to Disobedience is not Obedience. Catholics must be faithful to the Church and her teachings as handed down, not to a schismatic pope. The schismatic pope and his cohorts must be resisted until he is no longer in power. The faithful in staying faithful to the Church's teachings as handed down, will prevail.
    https://sspx.org/en/can-obedience-oblige-us-disobey

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  2. "May God comfort you. I know moreover that not only this thing saddens you, but also the fact that while others have obtained the churches by violence, you are meanwhile cast out from your places. For they hold the places, but you the Apostolic Faith. They are, it is true, in the places, but outside of the true Faith; while you are outside the places indeed, but the Faith, within you. Let us consider whether is the greater, the place or the Faith. Clearly the true Faith." St. Athanasius
    https://www.fisheaters.com/stathanasiusletter.html

    This is where we go. This is what we do. Until Our Lady and our Lord corrects this. We go to Tradition. We go where the Church is.

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  3. I see no need at all for a formal abrogation of Summorum Pontificum. In fact, the Pope can expand it and still erase the TLM! All he needs to do is sufficiently change the TLM so that an expansion of SP would be an expansion of "his" "TLM" which would be an abrogation of the TLM by "expanding" it. The rest of Arnold's speculation seems quite reasonable.

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    1. Stupid Arnold guy is wrong about everything. I hate Arnold.

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    2. I must be missing the joke. I think the "Arnold guy's" article is incisive and very interesting!

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    3. funniest thing I've seen today :-)

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    4. The author's name is Patrick Archbold.

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  4. JMJ

    Disobedience is disobedience and schism is schism only when it is done in reference to a legitimate authority.

    The reality and truth of Bergoglio not being Pope (Benedict XVI still is.) renders the whole problem moot: Bergie and his pervchurch buddies have no legitimate authority that can be an occasion of disobedience and schism. In their rejection of Christ's teachings and their usurpation of power, they have nullified their legitimate authority.

    They can take all the buildings, money, real estate and such, but we still have the Faith. They can forbid, accuse, or excommunicate all they want, but we believers and underground priests (and hopefully some bishops!) will still have the true Faith, a valid Holy Sacrifice, and valid Sacraments until Our Lord sees fit to clean up the mess!

    Exciting times to be in!!

    The Baby Jesus bless and protect us!!

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  5. He. Isn’t. The. Pope.

    Why would anyone recognize, follow, obey, and ascent to a man who so clearly does NOT possess the supernatural negative protection from error that every true pope has been promised from the lips of Our Savior?

    No argument about your analysis nor your predictions, by the way. Spot on. But they will only come true so long as people continue in their blindness. You can only start dealing with the problem once it’s been identified.

    God made promises, and He keeps his promises. God is not a liar.

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  6. "And there it is. This is how you make a defacto schism into a real one with the faithful Catholics on the outside looking in. I know many of you will say that they can't legitimately exercise their authority in this way or that, and you are right. But it doesn't matter. The last 5 years prove that doesn't matter. Power is the only thing that matters. They have cut off every escape path and are driving us to the cliff, because that is where they want us. Choose. Obedience or your faith."

    This is full frontal anti-reality. You do realize that, since you consider Bergoglio true pope, and thus he does have legitimate authority over you when you're operating in that alternative universe, that you do indeed excommunicate yourself by defying him.

    If the near future brings us the scenario you describe, think about what that means in terms of linear thought. It means your own erroneous assent to illegitimate authority will be the lever by which you excommunicate yourself. In other words: In my reality, true reality, where Benedict is still pope, you will still be Catholic. But in your "reality" you will be in schism.

    "They will not follow a stranger, but they will run from him because they do not know the voice of strangers." Also from the lips of the Lord our God. John 10:5.

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  7. lol, thanks for the laugh. I hate that Arnold guy too but that Archbold guy seems on target.
    Hey here's something new, I have no idea what the solution is, but am beginning to feel a lot like a rat in a trip. Squeak squeak. The man's a destroyer, a narcissist, even, I believe, a sadist. He's got a lot of vengeance and hatred in his cold, black heart. He has it in for faithful Catholics, despises the Catholic faith, and probably dislikes Christ more than both of them. Whatever he can get away with he's going to do. His goal is clearly the destruction of the faith, positively, and he's doing it. I really do not have any idea where this ends. He may accomplish his goal, because there is no one to oppose him. When a press conference is called that says there is going to be an imperfect council, or, Gabriel blows his horn and the clouds part, we'll know the end is nigh. If the sweet meteor of death shows up I hope it hits Rome first. At least give us that Lord! If churches close that's one thing, if we can't have private Masses, that's another. I have a feeling there will be Masses said regardless, and the faithful will hopefully find them. I grow worried for obtaining Catholic requiem Masses for funerals, but, I guess I'll let the Lord solve that. He can take us into heaven whether or not we receive the sacraments. In fact, I'm going to rely on the Good Lord to settle this whole mess one way or another. It's HIS church, not mine, and if He does not like what the current crop is doing, He'll solve the problem. I can only do my little part.

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    1. I have been thinking a lot about when we won't have Masses anymore. We have to figure out how the Catholic Underground Church in China manages. We have to follow their example.

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  8. Is there any way to contact the author of this article directly? I've looked around the website and can't see a contact link or email address.

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  9. This isn't particularly brave, since it's essentially anonymous; but when considering the increasingly-brazen behavior of the wolves in power in the Church, I often stop and remember how, when I've sinned, God makes me realize - however imperfectly - just how grievously I have offended Him and endangered the souls of those in my care. And then I wonder: how can they keep doing this??

    We know about Masons, Commies, and the rest, sure; still, the plain evil of it all is just stupefying. Like stopping to think that abortion just goes on and on, every day. Horrendous. mind-boggling evil.

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  10. My response to such a scenario would be the same response given by pious Jews when the Temple was turned over to prostitutes and pagan gods. Keep the rules, and say your prayers.

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  11. So where does the SSPX fit into this? I’m also not clear. So the Holy Father (I use the term loosely) says priests can’t offer private Masses. Does that mean Jesus does not come down on the altar if a private TLM is said? I mean, does Jesus have to obey whatever Francis says? Would Francis be allowed to do what Bugnini wasn’t, to change the Mass so that it lost all validity, so that it wouldn’t matter whether we went or stayed home?

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  13. I don't think the TLM will be the weapon. Not enough of a constituency. I believe sodomy, adultery, and abortion will be the "issues" exploited to drive Catholics out of the "church." Result: The Bergoglians will be the "Catholics," in control of a Zombie Catholic Church, as they are now in China.

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    1. It will almost certainly be "all of the above." It already is.

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  14. My Questions:
    Why is the traditional Latin Mass under extreme attack?
    1) It has been valid for hundreds/thousands of years. Was it therefore invalid all that time? 2) Is not Latin a language, and especially the official language of the Roman Catholic Church? 3) I still have a copy of the 1960 missal. Why was it rewritten when it already provided a beautiful English translation? And presumably good translations for other languages. I think it is good to have masses said in native tongues but why ostracise this one particular language, Latin? 4) Does it really matter which way the priest faces? I am fine with either. 5) Again, why so much hostility against this particular variant of worship when the intent of the "reform" was to make the mass more accessible and understandable to the congregation. If this is what a particular community or group prefers, and it can be provided, what is the problem? What's the beef here? Aren't we supposed to love one another?

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    1. Those are important questions. Say you have someone who wants to reduce our perception of the Eucharist. Say that person does so by saying divorced and remarried can receive Communion in spite of their mortal sin. Say the same person also does so by saying non-Catholics can receive Communion. Now say the same person also hates the Latin Mass and tries to crush it. What might the connection be? Why would he bother with a few people who want to use a dead language? Why not just ignore them? You should be asking yourself those questions. The only one of those scenarios that hasn’t been done yet is the last. If it is done, why would it be done? You need to know the answer to that question. Yes, we are supposed to love one another. More so, we must love God. Our love of neighbor is lacking if we don’t love God above all. So start there with your questions about love.

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  15. Bring it on Frankie. You can put my Writ in the mail today.

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  16. Interesting series but ends without offering much hope. May I suggest that you look into the Saints Peter and Paul Roman Catholic Mission in York, PA established over 18 years ago.
    http://www.saintspeterandpaulrcm.com/

    It offers a structure of resistance that if followed in every diocese would present a voice in defense of the faith that cannot be silenced. The Mission's purpose was not simply to provide the unadulterated profession of the Catholic Faith and the sacraments according to the received and approved rites of the Church, but to make this profession in the public forum in face of the local ordinary. We hold that dogma is the proximate rule of faith to which every Catholic is subject including the pope; we profess that the immemorial ecclesiastical traditions are not matters of simple discipline but dogmatic in nature and constitute necessary attributes of the faith without which it cannot be known or communicated to others; we hold that every Catholic by virtue of his baptism has a duty to profess his faith and worship God in the public forum therefore possesses a right to the immemorial ecclesiastical traditions that make this profession and worship possible. We further hold that obedience is not in itself a virtue unless it is properly regulated by the virtue of Religion. No prelate regardless of dignity possess the legitimate authority to command anything against the virtue of Religion and every Catholic is bound on the pain of sin to refuse obedience to any command against the virtue of Religion.

    We have made this profession of faith before the local ordinary for which he or Rome has answered. We at one point were offered to become an Indult community but this was rejected because we deny that any immemorial Catholic ecclesiastical tradition can be the subject of an indult. Consequently we use exclusively the pre-1955 Roman Missal before any alteration under the Pian commission directed by secretary Bugnini was done.

    Indult communities by accepting Summorum Pontificum have placed themselves in a box. They have accepted the presupposition that liturgy is a matter of simple discipline and Rome possesses the legitimate authority to suppress it. Whatever is accepted as a grant of privilege cannot be later assumed as a right. With regard to Dogma, every traditional community including the SSPX believes that pope constitutes the proximate rule of faith and have willing submitted to the 1989 Profession of Faith that includes the submission of the mind and will, or as Lumen Gentium says it, submission of the soul, to the "authentic magisterium" of the pope which is nothing more than an unconditional vow of obedience to man as man. Unconditional obedience can only be given to God and God alone.

    Drew


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  17. I com from Germany. My english isnt good. I want to comment this with the words of Ann Barnhardt

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2018/12/03/does-this-sound-right-does-this-sound-logical/:


    Does this sound right? Does this sound logical?


    “Either you assent to ‘Pope Francis’ schisming The Church, or you will be in schism!”

    Stop.

    Think.

    Start with the fact that Jesus Christ is God and thus incapable of lying or deception or breaking His promises. He is perfect Good, perfect Truth, and infinite Love. Start there.

    Now think about the statement above. Think about how it “appears” to be a catch-22. Do you think that God Almighty Who incarnated, suffered and died nailed to a Cross for your sins would put you in a catch-22 no-win position? Schismatic and damned if you do, schismatic and damned if you don’t?

    Of course not.

    So, what MUST be the problem here?

    The problem is the false base premise that Bergoglio is now or ever has been the Pope. That is a falsehood. Pope Benedict XVI Ratzinger is the one and only living Pope, and has been since April ARSH 2005, whether he likes it or not.

    Speak out, folks. Tell as many people as you can. Antipope Bergoglio has no authority. Satan is trying to trick even the remnant elect into believing themselves to be in schism when they are not, OR to voluntarily enter into schism by following an Antipope into his Antichurch.

    And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    John 8:32

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    3. Exactly! When will Patrick Archbold (let's also include Steve Skojec and Hilary White, since they too are on board with this unfortunate fearmongering mindset by linking to Archbold's articles in their own writings) cry uncle and FINALLY admit that they are operating from a false base premise (thankfully other commenters are pointing this out as well, which is quite edifying to see). Writing a 5-part series on how we will all be deemed schismatics for not following what a CRIMINAL antipope 'mandates', is essentially a waste of time to even be contemplating. I am in submission to our TRUE Pope, Benedict XVI!

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  18. I gotta say it sounds like you're spot on with this, although merely "updating" the TLM seems a bit shallow as an ultimate goal. These guys want more. They want the money with the power; that's how they got the power in the first place. And I'm sure they want even more than that. But you are exactly correct that every move has been precisely calculated to force bishops to choose between obedience and orthodoxy.

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  19. Do Americans, growing up and living in a revolutionary state, really care if Bergoglio thinks they are "schismatic"? Let the Lavender Mafia go have their Progressive Church. Eventually, no one will go. Who is going to suffer for a Christianity that is not the real thing?

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  20. It was Benedict XVI who launched the "trial balloon" of changing the TLM: the altered Good Friday prayer for the Jews.

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    1. That had already been changed in 1962. The SSPX's version of the 1962 Missal kept the traditional prayer so most people who use their Missal were not aware of the change.
      But Benedict alone is responsible for any future changes to the 1962 Missal. That is obvious from Universae Eclessiae of 2009 explaining Summorum Pontificum as well as the Letter he sent to all the bishops accompanying Summorum Pontificum. The idea was not to "liberate" the 1962 Missal but to give it it's proper burial buy gradually Bri go g indult communities back to the Novus Or do. He made this clear in his book "The Spirit of the Liturgy" in which he states that two rites are difficul to manage therefore they will have to eventually be merged into one. Summorum Pontificum and it's related motu proprios were the means to that end.

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